We conquer 5 GHz on AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and Ryzen 3 3300X processors under liquid nitrogen. Compare new items with Ryzen 5 1600, Ryzen 3 1200 and FX-6350

A couple of months ago, the AMD processor lineup was replenished with new budget processors – Ryzen 3 3100 and Ryzen 3 3300X. Despite the presence of four cores with SMT support, in some tasks they are superior to the 6-core models of the previous generation. This article is devoted to experiments and analysis of the potential of new products, as well as their comparison with past generations of Ryzen and FX in benchmarks and games.

The issues of architecture were considered in more detail in our previous material. Here we will, in the best traditions of the resource, squeeze out all the juices and torture “fresh meat” under liquid nitrogen. And from now on, it can be seen in video format.

Characteristics of the subjects

Test methodology and stands

Stand AM4:

• processor #1: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 YD1600BBAF (Pinnacle Ridge);
• processor #2: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 YD1200BBAF (Pinnacle Ridge);
• Processor #3: AMD Ryzen 3 3100;
• Processor #4: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X;
• cooling: CBO circuit;
• thermal interface: Arctic Cooling MX-4;
• motherboard: MSI B450I Gaming Plus AC (UEFI A.B2, AGESA 1.0.0.4);
• memory: HyperX Predator HX441C19PB3/8 x2 (2×8 GB, 4266 MHz, CL 19-26-26-45-2T);
• video card: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Gigabyte GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD);
• system storage: Kingston KC2000 250GB (SKC2000M8250G, M.2 NVMe);
• game drive: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB (MZ-76Q1T0BW);
• power supply: Rosewill Hercules-1600S (1600 W).

Stand AM3:

• processor: AMD FX-6350;
• cooling: CBO circuit;
• thermal interface: Arctic Cooling MX-4;
• motherboard: ASUS Crosshair IV Formula (BIOS 3029);
• memory: HyperX Beast 2x8GB KHX21C11T3FK8/64X (2133 MHz, CL 11-12-11-32-2T);
• video card: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Gigabyte GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD);
• drive: Kingston HyperX Predator 480GB (SHPM2280P2H/480G, M.2 PCI-E);
• game drive: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB (MZ-76Q1T0BW);
• power supply: Rosewill Hercules-1600S (1600 W).

The CBO circuit consisted of a HAILEA HC-300A chiller, a 15-liter liquid tank, two Hydor Seltz 1200 pumps and a CPU EK-Supremacy full Nickel water block.

The software was as follows: OS Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (2004) x64; NVIDIA GeForce Graphics Drivers 446.14 WHQL, AMD Chipset Software Driver 2.04.04.111, MSI Afterburner 4.6.2, RTSS 7.3.0, HWINFO 6.26.

Each tested processor was tested at factory frequencies and in overclocking mode (OC):

• Ryzen 3 1200: stock settings, 2933MHz memory, JEDEC timings;
• OC Ryzen 3 1200: 4.3GHz, 3533MHz memory, CL14-14-14-28-1T timings;
• Ryzen 3 1600: stock settings, 2933MHz memory, JEDEC timings;
• OC Ryzen 3 1600: 4.0 GHz, 3200 MHz memory, CL14-14-14-28-1T timings;
• FX-6350: default settings, 1866 MHz memory, timings CL9-9-9-24-1T;
• OC FX-6350: frequency 5.1 GHz, memory 2200 MHz, timings CL11-11-11-30-1T, NB and HT – 2.6 GHz;
• Ryzen 3 3100: stock settings, 3200 MHz memory, JEDEC timings;
• OC Ryzen 3 3100: 4.5GHz, FCLK=1867MHz, 3733MHz memory, CL14-16-14-28-1T timings;
• Ryzen 3 3300X: stock settings, 3200 MHz memory, JEDEC timings;
• OC Ryzen 3 3300X: 4.4GHz, FCLK=1867MHz, 3733MHz memory, CL14-16-14-28-1T timings.

The temperature in the room was 22–25 degrees Celsius. The power consumption of the platform was measured using the Feron TM55 energy meter for 10 minutes in load mode (LinX AMD Edition run) and idle. Fan speed control is automatic. The frequency potential was studied in voltage steps of 0.025 V, the stability of the system was checked by a complex of loads in the form of mining on the RandomX algorithm, running LinX (problem size 28432, 10 iterations), as well as passing the HWBot x265 2.2 Benchmark on the 4k preset. Each benchmark was run five times, the results indicate the arithmetic mean, the same goes for games. The games recorded telemetry (1% low fps + average fps) using Riva Tuner Statistics Server. Further methods are different from the standard ones. In CS:GO, a test on the FPS Benchmark workshop map; in DOTA 2, a replay of the final game OG vs Liquid at The International 2019, 19:45–21:15 on an automatic camera. In GTA V, the last scene of the benchmark from the waterfall to the black screen after a collision with a truck.

Duel of topologies. Ryzen 3 3100 vs Ryzen 3 3300X under equal conditions

At first glance, the difference between these processors is only in clock frequencies, the presence of the “X” index and the price, but in fact there are differences in technical performance. The junior processor uses two CCX half (two physical cores and 8 MB L3 cache each), while the older one uses one CCX fully (four physical cores and 16 MB L3 cache), and the second CCX is disabled.

In theory, a junior processor with the same clock speeds, memory settings and FCLK should be weaker, but by how much?

Both processors ran at identical settings. The frequency was 4000 MHz, the memory worked at 3600 MHz with timings CL18-18-18-39-1T, FCLK was 1800 MHz. Energy saving technologies and consumption limits removed (1000W/4096A).

In games, the considerable superiority of the older processor is visible.

The only benchmark where the younger model took the lead. This is most likely due to the fact that each core performs its own fixed task, and it is easier for two cores to agree among themselves on the use of the cache than for four at once.

The father of all benchmarks prefers the Ryzen 3 3300X, no wonder, because one core has twice the cache at its disposal!

Rendering and complex loads also run faster on the older model.

We state the fact – the full use of one CCX is more advantageous than two half.

Study of the frequency potential

In addition to the newly minted Ryzen 3, we will also look at the “remake” Ryzen 3 1200 AF, which is based on the Zen + architecture.

The junior processor turned out to be the most successful, and quite noticeably, but building statistics based on single instances is illogical. Let’s assume that a particular junior instance of BF 2014SUT (14th week 2020, Suzhou) is the winner, and the senior BF 2013SUS (13th week 2020, Suzhou – an ironic week, right?) was awarded the honorary title “Potato chip ”, well, or “potato”. It is the Ryzen 3 3100 that will move to the next level as the favorite.

Overclocking with liquid nitrogen

Let’s expand our vocabulary first:

• Coldbug (CB) – loss of stability of the platform or its complete freezing / emergency shutdown at a certain low temperature.
• Cold boot bug (CBB) – the impossibility of correctly starting the platform or loading it at a certain low temperature.
• Xtreme overclocking (XOC), 90% used as an abbreviation – this makes it clear that there are no limits on the part of the writer, all means are good, the safety of the subject is not interesting, all efforts are thrown to achieve the best result.

The AMD B450 chipset can easily handle the same settings from the AMD X570, however, when it comes to XOC, the AMD B450 puts a lot of spokes in conquering the Zen 2 processor. successful start if FCLK fails. When it is possible to obtain level values ​​of 1800–1900 MHz in air or water, then at the turn of these same -40 degrees, the frequency must be kept in the region of 1400–1500 MHz. The funny thing is that with Zen / Zen + you can start without problems even at -100 degrees. The next point is RAM. The cold helps old architectures in conquering higher frequencies / compressing timings, the same is true on the X570 + Zen 2 bundle, but this is somehow not observed on the B450 + Zen 2, although this did not prevent us from easily taking the frequency of 5000 MHz on DDR4. Ryzen 3 3100 does not have CB, you can safely freeze it at all -190 degrees. The maximum frequency that we managed to reach is 5850 MHz, in the best traditions of “luck pumped to 1”, the validation file turned out to be broken, so we will assume that the AMD B450 + Ryzen 3 3100 bundle mastered 5.8 GHz on all cores.

Among those who visited me, Matisse is an absolute record at the moment. Ryzen 5 3600 managed to reach 5424 MHz, and the flagship Ryzen 9 3950X only up to 5.4 GHz. And then some state employees overtook everyone, moreover, on the old chipset … Ryzen 3 3300X did not particularly distinguish itself. Conquered 5.3 GHz, has CB at -140 degrees. Does the fact of release on the 13th week of 2020 have anything to do with this, let other people figure it out, there is nothing for overclockers to waste resources on this topic. Here are some final results for the Ryzen 3 3100:

A list of all results can be found on the team page on HWBot.

The increase in performance in benchmarks in excess of traditional cooling is up to 30%, the forcedly lowered FCLK does not interfere with the Ryzen 3 3100 and Ryzen 3 3300X as much as the older processors of the Zen 2 line. The rating of the best results of 4-core HWBot processors looks very funny. Ryzen is just the white crow:

We figured out nitrogen, let’s return to the world of adequate use.